In addition to the above comments there is some confusion regarding the 6 mm ARC's performance. Head diameter is .441, a bit less than the .535" head of the short-lived 243 WSSM which was a lot faster than the ARC. Availability of factory ammo may be a plus for the 6ARC. Slower, sure, but not enough to matter in the real world on real threats. Poll: Whats your number one reason for reloading? So what about Hornadys published 2,750 fps number for the 108 grain ELD-M bullets in 6mm ARC? 100 Factory ammo? H4895. Ammo capacity is about the same, 20 rounds with the longer Grendel mags. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Unless youre carrying this into combat, Im not sure it matters. Take a look at any good ballistics program Hornady and Federal both have an easy-to-use program on their websitesand you'll see the advantage of the better B.C. What about your 6.8 SPC? LMT MWS, 20 224V, Sig Sauer Tango 6, 3-18 MRAD Dev-L using Federal GMM 90 grain SMK and an 18 SS Match 6.8 SPC with 110 Grain VMAX. Mid-20th Century 24-calibers shoot much faster than the new Hornady 6mm ARC, but are they ballistically better? This 6 ARC was an excellent performer, not a precision rifle but thats not what its for. Ultimate Reloader LLC is not responsible for errors in load data on this website. After that, it was the 6.5 and 6CM show. On this Wikipedia the language links are at the top of the page across from the article title. This increased size means the 243 has a case capacity of 53-54.8 gr H2O. If this rifle is any indication all it took was a barrel, bolt, and magazine swap. My barrel is a 7 twist 20 and Im going to try the Hornady 108s and I may try some VARGET too as it is another of my favorites. It is NOT for use in AR-15 style (gas gun) rifles. VLD Match. Cleaned it all but twice missing one cold shot at this range. The handguard bolts to the upper eliminating impact shifts when setting the bi-pod or locking into a barricade or obstacle. Unlike the WSSM, the Hornady 6mm ARC was engineered around a long, high B.C. Probably not. Making those tweaks often feels like creating a powder that doesnt really exist. How about the 26, 27, 28, and 30 Noslers? Hornady is an obvious first choice for selecting 6mm projectiles to load the 6mm ARC with. Material connection (partnerships) information available at http://ultimatereloader.com/about/, 6mm ARC is so new that as of the writing of this article, published load data did not exist! Here was my strategy to extrapolate my results to the likely scenario of the 24 test barrel: Heres the work-up: (pressure listed is MAX projected, not average). Velocity can be a factor, but given the same weight, recoil should be similar so I kept the weights as close as possible. This rifle originally started out as a 224 Valkyrie using their IRMT upper and NX15 lower. Do not attempt to repair or modify any firearms based on information on this website. Both can produce sub-MOA groups, but 224 Valkyrie seems to spread out faster than 6mm ARC. After forming some cases I shot Berger 105 hybrid targets over 27.5 grs. was everything the .244 Rem. The hunter can add about 100 to 150 fps of additional velocity to most game-weight bullets. They built these rifles with great attention to detail. Truth be told, the magnum race is still underway. [9] The 6mm ARC utilizes the same bolt head size as the 6.5mm Grendel, and 6.5mm Grendel-compatible AR-pattern box magazines have also been used successfully with the 6mm ARC. Lapua brass is easy to find, however the bullet (105 Hybrid) and powder (Varget/H4895) most run will be tough to find. Campfire Outfitter . Commercial 6mm ARC loads feature bullets selected to deliver ideal performance for hunting, match shooting, and personal protection applications. 100-300m: Consistent 100 meter groups in the .60 -.75 inch range, 2.5-3.0 inches at 300 meters were the norm. Some smaller capacity, low velocity rounds are tailored for sub-sonic, low-report firing for clandestine military engagements. Its accuracy is simply phenomenal, and it makes a superior varmint cartridge. The powder charge I used then is lost to history, but the bullet was a Speer 90-grain SP. However, the 6mm BR is superior at 300m and beyond. it looks like the 6mm ARC is 1.490 and the grendel case is 1.52, so not much of a shortening if really at all. The rifles Barrett supplied for the DoD are top-notch, but they are just a modified REC-7 DI. If I was gonna go to a 6mm cartridge I would either do 6x47lapua because I already brass and all I need is a smaller neck bushing, or I would go all in on 6br. Typical social media and industry speculation fired up with a fury. Messages. It debuted in 1955 and has been immensely and justifiably popular ever since. This morning, using the same scale and method as Gavin, I measured the case capacity using water weight in two sets of fired but not resized cases. Its design uses propellants efficiently. The only difference is the Proof Research 18 1-7.5 twist barrel, 6.5 Grendel bolt, and E-Lander magazines. Range Report 6mm ARC vs 6 PPC vs 6 Grendel. The 6mm ARC's more efficient projectiles with their high BCs provides superior exterior ballistics with noticeably less wind drift, higher retained velocity and greater retained energy. the problem is your average guy wants to shoot a long ways, they don't get the fast and light principles. Photo Courtesy Berger Bullets. Standard practice is to start tweaking burn rates, bullet weight and weighting factor to make calculated muzzle velocity match actual. That doesnt mean others in that community or those in contact with them may not want 6mm ARC someday, or even give it a try sooner than later. Geissele fixed gas block was retained with no change in brass ejection pattern or bolt speed. No surprise there since it is about the same weight as the 6 ARC and both used Proof Research barrels. LMT shot softer, exhibited a tank-like build, and proved great to shoot. The sudden popularity of the AR-15 platform rifle has inspired a flurry of new, short cartridges that fit its short magazine. I tested a bolt-action handgun in 24 Nosler last year and was so impressed with the round that I had a Remington Model 700 originally in .223 Rem. Using a LabRadar chronograph to measure velocities, we saw an average of . I had a Remington Model 700 BDL Varmint rifle rebarreled with a heavy stainless-steel barrel chambered for the round, and it lived up to its reputation. Even with the cost of the Proof Research barrel it doable. It is a 6 BR REM barrel that came off a rifle that I bought for the Remington 600 donor action. The bullet diameter of each caliber is the same at .243". 6 BR REM, not 6.5. The 6mm ARC produces a larger splash signature that allows shooters to self-spot impacts and make rapid adjustments. rebarreled to 24 Nosler with a stainless-steel, three-groove PAC-NOR barrel. Soft-report, low-recoil cartridges prove ideal for starting new shooters, many of whom never see the need for escalation. Powder selection is easy: Just stick with CFE 223 and all will be right with the world. was not, and the .243 Win. The 6.5 Creedmoor shoots 6.5mm/.264 class projectiles while the 6mm Creedmoor is necked down to shoot 6mm/.243. In between: Everything performed swimmingly between 100-400 meters as they should, once again the ZEV shines here with no recoil and consistent accuracy, almost boringly easy to get hits. It is formed by using a shortened .22-250 Remington case, and it has thinner walls for increased powder capacity and the Ackley improved shape. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Its why the 308 is absent from this test. There are 6ARC bolt guns out there. These did not shoot well at all for me at 100 yards with an average of 1.9 MOA and after two lackluster 5-shot groups, I discontinued testing with them. You will not find better quality and consistency when it comes to Lapua. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Thread Modes. Both bullets produce deer-slaying accuracy. Nearly two dozen rifle makers are already chambering for the round, including Browning, Proof, Christensen, Barrett, Mossberg, and Howa. 6MM ARC AR-15 Barrels for Sale at Joe Bob Outfitters! ARC stands for "Advanced Rifle Cartridge." The caliber is 6mm or .243. Lets break down a few things about this number: So if you have a 24 bolt-action 6mm ARC rifle, thats the velocity you should expect. Handloads are easy to prepare, and while my limited use of the .240 Wby. Joined: Jun 2002. Dropped on my M16 lower doubles and triples stayed on a full-sized silhouette out to 25 yards, stretched doubles to 50 yards. It stays supersonic farther downrange than the 308 Win. To keep the 115-grain Berger VLD (G1 B.C. I had only some pre-primed new Hornady 6mm ARC brass to start with and the SAAMI Specs for 6mm ARC. by David Bahde | Dr. The first groups were the 6.5 Grendel cases that I modified for the 6mm ARC. Straight-wall rounds like Winchesters little 350 Legend may be the only centerfire rifle cartridges legal for deer hunting in some states, so of course theyre going to be popular. They have 10 solid options ranging in weight from 90 to 110 grains. Required fields are marked *. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That flattens trajectories somewhat and applies a bit more punch to the game. It is accurate, produces good velocities, and the copper eraser stuff in this powder makes barrel cleaning a breeze. It would also be used as a deer rifle for new shooters (small deer, sitka blacktails). If the wind is changing from 4 -7 miles an hour (and it ususally is), you will have more trouble bracketing or holding the 6BR in the 10 or X ring. Review: Hornady 6mm ARC. Her 6mm Creedmoor rifle is light and handy and shoots like a house afire, and recoil and muzzle blast are modest. To set up a viable 6mm ARC vs. these other calibers, I set 100-meter zeros, then confirmed at 1100 meters providing a proven hold at range. The 6mm Advanced Rifle Cartridge (6 ARC) by Hornady is a new cartridge that can fire a sleek 6mm (.243) caliber projectile around 2,700 fps with minimal recoil and the 6mm ARC is short enough to fit within the dimensions of a standard AR-15 magazine and it performs very well out of an AR-15 with an 18 inch barrel (what we tested). Some examples include the 6mm-204 and the 6x45. But I wanted to get some real-world results with my new, would produce approximately 2,754 FPS in a 24 bolt-action rifle, Dont miss out on Ultimate Reloader updates, make. A fun challenge. Check one out and join the race to the bottom. With the super bullets and modern powders of today, I cant imagine a better deer and antelope round. VLD, Hornady 108-gr. Real Performance Results, From-Scratch Experimental Load Development, 6mm ARC Landing Page at Midsouth Shooters Supply, Subscribe to Ultimate Reloader Reloading Blog by Email, NEW DAA Infra-Red Low Powder Sensor (Hands-On). The 6mm Rem. Precision Rifle Podcasts - 4 Podcasts Hosted by Top 10 Shooters. I cant see it, but for those who like to try something different its is a really nice option. What explains that? Travis224 Sergeant. | all4shooters, Hornady's NEW 6mm ARC & Odin Work's Barrels - www.gunsamerica.com, gununiversity.com | 6mm ARC Released / Hands-On Testing and Comparisons, by Ryan Cleckner 3 June 2020, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=6mm_ARC&oldid=1137943385, Articles with unsourced statements from July 2020, Articles with unsourced statements from September 2021, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0, This page was last edited on 7 February 2023, at 05:30. It is based on the previous 22 Nosler and has two features to make it compatible with AR-type rifles: a slightly rebated rim that is the same diameter as the .223 Remington and an overall cartridge length set at 2.26 inches, the same as other AR rounds. What does all this mean? The need for a new, uncommon bolt/ face/ assembly kills 6 arc in the real world for bolt guns. But no matter, new is new. NOTE: This 6mm ARC reloading data is intended for use in bolt action rifles safe for pressures up to 62,000 psi. However, after completely missing five consecutive bucks with my 6mm, I decided that I needed to hunt with that Remington 6mm like I hunted with my 2-3/4 inch 12 gauge. Designed to meet the needs of the worlds toughest critics, the 6mm ARC utilizes efficient, high-BC bullets to deliver unprecedented performance from the AR-15 platform. The deer load had a 100-grain bullet, and the varmint load carried an 80-grain bullet. bullets of the 6mm Creedmoor. I have the 6 ARC and getting great results of .250 groups when I do my part. Posted: 11/11/2012 6:04:07 PM EST [#2] Velocity with a 105gr bullet from both is 2750 fps. It gave dependable accuracy and high velocities. Excessive recoil, debilitating blast, and marked overpressure remain its claim to fame, thereby making it unsuitable for comparison for most of us. Editors Note: Looking for a deeper dive on the 6.5 Grendel vs. 6mm ARC? I doubt that the book on the Great 6mm cartridges is closed, and future developments may add new chapters, to the delight of many shooters. Not liking Factory ammo so much as the longer OAL is a fair bit more difficult to load the magazine. was introduced in Remingtons Model 722 short-action bolt gun, and while the Model 722 was a very accurate rifle, it was rather plain. Will it be my go-to bang away rifle, not likely. of Israeli Defense Forces, joins David Fortier for an exclusive interview for Shotgun News. A new 100-grain factory deer load completed the rounds metamorphosis. Second, it was chambered in the delightful Winchester Model 70 Featherweight, which was a major factor in the .243s huge success. H2O, and a 6mm BR, around 39.0 gr. Follow @UReloader In my next story Ill be deep-diving on the CMMG Endeavor 20 6mm ARC AR-15, and will be stretching its legs to greater distances. Obviously, they are not nearly as popular as the 6mm hunting cartridges. No knobs, just a hold using the reticle, find it, read the wind, hold, and press, adjust as needed and repeat. No factory rifles or ammo was available, but for a while, Federal offered nickel-plated 6x47 cases. ELD-X . has not been on game, some loads stand out. Before there were scopes or red dots there were iron sights. bullets. Just pouring powder in and checking it by eye. Mag. .563) from wobbling, the 6mm ARC will need at least a 1:7 twist. has much kick to start with. .458 Winchester Magnum History: The Complete Story, 6.8 Western Ammo Options: The Load of Long Yardage, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Shots are on 12 round steel and 22 x 16 silhouette steel at 600 and 1100 meters. Factory loads were available, and it was moderately popular for both varmint and deer hunting and target shooting. The original 6 mm/.244 Rem is basically the .257 Roberts/7x57 case necked down, while the 6 mm BR Rem/Norma (only slightly different case specs between them) are much shorter cases. Eight reasons to embrace the Hornady 6mm ARC and other low-velocity cartridges. It is reported to be very accurate, but its aura is eclipsed by the shadow of the 6mm PPC. Velocity is 2,827 fps, and out of my Browning A-bolt II, it groups into 1.10 inches. Sign up with your email address to receive news and updates. All Rights Reserved. Hornady launched the 6mm ARC with three factory loads: a 103-grain ELD-X Precision Hunter at an advertised 2,800 fps, 105-grain BTHP Hornady Black at an advertised 2,750 fps and the 108-grain ELD-Match load at a stated 2,750 fps. Your email address will not be published. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. I chose to start with Varget because of what I read about 6mm PPC, and I have a lot on hand! The rim diameter of the 6mm ARC is 0.441 inches, while the 243 is slightly larger at 0.471 inches. The 6.5 Grendel products deliver about 25.3 inches of drop at 400 yards when the rifle is zeroed to 200 yards. See full disclaimer below. The 6x45 is the .223 Rem. However, I would not want to carry it far. Jeff, did you mean to type - 6.5BR? Maybe in a rural area where ranges stretch out, but movement here will be a rarity. Outside a few very special special units, the military gets whats issued. You are using an out of date browser. I also shot mine with an Ultra 9 direct-thread suppressor. Im referring to the 6mm Creedmoor, which is simply the 6.5 Creedmoor case necked down with no other change. I had a heavy-barreled Sako single shot in the 1970s, and it shot like almost all 6mm PPCs: great. 6mm ARC is so new that as of the writing of this article, published load data did not exist! ELD-Match, and Berger 115-gr. This makes it a factory cartridge, although no factory ammo is available, and guns chambered for it are all custom jobs. Give a Gift I am a much better bolt gun shooter than AR shooter.